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Hi Jeffrey,

I think you are on the right track (using commutators built from 3C
algorithms). I think the key is that the "do some twist" part will need to
involve more than a single twist. So given a commutator XYX'Y' where Y is
your 3C sequence and the prime signifies the reverse sequence, I'm betting
you need to focus on what the sequence X should be. Try making X a
sequence of twists that flips 2 colors on the 4C piece. I think you could
do this with a 3 move sequence.

I don't know which version you are using, but here are a couple posts I
made about my solution using the gravitation3d program.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/4D_Cubing/conversations/messages/250
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/4D_Cubing/conversations/messages/256

The macro file mentioned is here, and it has some helper sequences I used
for the X part of my commutators:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/4D_Cubing/files/MC5D/roice/

I don't have a macro file to share for Andrey's MC7D program.

Hope this helps!
Roice

On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:09 PM, wrote:

>
>
> I've been solving the mc5d puzzle for a few months, everything was going
> smoothly until I got to the new orientation of the 4c pieces. I'm talking
> about the orientation where a piece has 2 colours in the right places and
> the remaining 2 are swapped. I think I need to do some twist, 3C algorithm,
> reverse twist, reverse 3C algorithm. I've tried so many combinations I
> thought would work, only to end up where I started. Would someone be able
> to give me a hint that would get me going in the right direction?
>
> Thanks, Jeffrey Shantsman
>
>
>
>

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Hi Jeffrey,

I think you are on the righ=
t track (using commutators built from 3C algorithms). I think the key=
is that the "do some twist" part will need to involve more than =
a single twist. So given a commutator XYX'Y' where Y is your =
3C sequence and the prime signifies the reverse sequence, I'm betting y=
ou need to focus on what the sequence X should be. Try making X a se=
quence of twists that flips 2 colors on the 4C piece. I think you cou=
ld do this with a 3 move sequence.

I don't know which version you are using, but=
here are a couple posts I made about my solution using the gravitation3d p=
rogram.

oups/4D_Cubing/conversations/messages/250" target=3D"_blank">https://groups=
.yahoo.com/neo/groups/4D_Cubing/conversations/messages/250

ations/messages/256" target=3D"_blank">https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/=
4D_Cubing/conversations/messages/256

The m=
acro file mentioned is here, and it has some helper sequences I used for th=
e X part of my commutators:

g/files/MC5D/roice/">https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/4D_Cubing/files/MC=
5D/roice/

I don't have a macro file to=
share for Andrey's MC7D program.

Hope this helps!

Roice

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I've been solving the mc5d puzzle for a few months, everything was goin=
g smoothly until I got to the new orientation of the 4c pieces. I'm tal=
king about the orientation where a piece has 2 colours in the right places =
and the remaining 2 are swapped. I think I need to do some twist, 3C algori=
thm, reverse twist, reverse 3C algorithm. I've tried so many combinatio=
ns I thought would work, only to end up where I started. Would someone be a=
ble to give me a hint that would get me going in the right direction?

Thanks, Jeffrey Shantsman

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Hi Jeff,

The program uses a well-known macro file name of "MagicCube5D.macros".
This might be in the same directory where the program runs from, but newer
versions of Windows are putting this file elsewhere. On my computer, it is
at:

C:\Users\roice\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files
(x86)\MagicCube5D\MagicCube5D.macros

So you'll have to make a copy of your current macro file (to save them),
then replace it with the one I linked to if you want to see the macros I
used. I know this is all terribly user unfriendly, but that's the state of
things. (Really, the software should support saving/loading macros to
arbitrary files.)

Roice

On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 10:25 PM, wrote:

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>
> Hi Roice,
> Thank you very much for your reply, I'm using the gravitation3d.comMagicCube5D program (I believe it's the latest version). Is there a way to
> open macro files in this version?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
>
>
>

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Hi Jeff,

The program uses a well-known =
macro file name of "MagicCube5D.macros". This might be in t=
he same directory where the program runs from, but newer versions of Window=
s are putting this file elsewhere. On my computer, it is at:

C:\Users\roice\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files=
(x86)\MagicCube5D\MagicCube5D.macros

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So you'll have to make a copy of yo=
ur current macro file (to save them), then replace it with the one I linked=
to if you want to see the macros I used. I know this is all terribly=
user unfriendly, but that's the state of things. (Really, the so=
ftware should support saving/loading macros to arbitrary files.)

Roice
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Hi Roice,
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Cube5D program (I believe it's the latest version). Is there a way to o=
pen macro files in this version?

Thanks,
Jeff

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