Thread: "MagicTile Solving: tiny size / big challenge [1 Attachment]"

From: Melinda Green <melinda@superliminal.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 04:04:32 -0700
Subject: Re: [MC4D] MagicTile Solving: tiny size / big challenge [1 Attachment]



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Who will be first and who will be shortest?
3..2..1.. Go!

On 9/14/2012 2:58 AM, Eduard Baumann wrote:
> [Attachment(s) <#TopText> from Eduard Baumann included below]
>
> Here is a fully scrambled log file containing my 3-cycle
> hidden in the middle somewhere.
> I have deleted the history and also deleted the macro which is
> normally saved with log file.
> Kind regards
> Ed
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Melinda Green
> *To:* 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2012 12:47 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [MC4D] MagicTile Solving: tiny size / big challenge
>
> Nice find, Eduard! I especially like that it is non-orientable in
> addition to being small.
>
> How about you create a fully scrambled log file containing your
> 3-cycle
> hidden in the middle somewhere and then share it with the group?
> We will
> then see who can solve it. I just confirmed that you can erase the
> scrambling history from the log file by deleting everything
> between the
> and tags. That will make it a fair contest. It
> doesn't
> seem to give the "ding" sound when you solve it that way but it
> seems to
> work fine otherwise.
>
> -Melinda
>
> On 9/13/2012 12:48 AM, Eduard wrote:
> > I'm very surprised to encounter a tiny MagicTile puzzle
> presenting a BIG challenge ! It's "MT eucl klein {3,6} 8 v 0:0:1".
> It has only 12 two-color elements but the commutator moves 6
> elements (double 3-cycle) and has only 6 fixed elements. To create
> a single 3-cycle you have to find a setup which moves 5 moving
> elements on the 6 fixed places. Possibly you can solve this puzzle
> by chance when scrambled with few moves. But if I give you a
> scrambling with my 28 move single 3-cycle you have to do the job.
>


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Who will be first and who will be shortest?

3..2..1.. Go!



On 9/14/2012 2:58 AM, Eduard Baumann
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Here is a fully scrambled log
file containing my 3-cycle

hidden in the middle somewhere.

I have deleted the history and
also deleted the macro which is normally saved with log file.

 

Kind regards

Ed

 


----- Original Message -----

From: title="melinda@superliminal.com"
href="mailto:melinda@superliminal.com">Melinda Green

To: moz-do-not-send="true" title="4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com"
href="mailto:4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com">4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, September 14,
2012 12:47 AM

Subject: Re: [MC4D]
MagicTile Solving: tiny size / big challenge




 

Nice find, Eduard! I especially like that it is
non-orientable in

addition to being small.



How about you create a fully scrambled log file containing
your 3-cycle

hidden in the middle somewhere and then share it with the
group? We will

then see who can solve it. I just confirmed that you can
erase the

scrambling history from the log file by deleting everything
between the

<Block> and </Block> tags. That will make it a
fair contest. It doesn't

seem to give the "ding" sound when you solve it that way but
it seems to

work fine otherwise.



-Melinda



On 9/13/2012 12:48 AM, Eduard wrote:

> I'm very surprised to encounter a tiny MagicTile puzzle
presenting a BIG challenge ! It's "MT eucl klein {3,6} 8 v
0:0:1". It has only 12 two-color elements but the commutator
moves 6 elements (double 3-cycle) and has only 6 fixed
elements. To create a single 3-cycle you have to find a
setup which moves 5 moving elements on the 6 fixed places.
Possibly you can solve this puzzle by chance when scrambled
with few moves. But if I give you a scrambling with my 28
move single 3-cycle you have to do the job.










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From: "andreyastrelin" <andreyastrelin@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 05:40:47 -0000
Subject: Re: [MC4D] MagicTile Solving: tiny size / big challenge [1 Attachment]



Solved: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/4D_Cubing/files/Andrey/gem3_aa.=
xml .
199 twists, using some 10-twist 3-cycle :)

Andrey

--- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, Melinda Green wrote:
>
> Who will be first and who will be shortest?
> 3..2..1.. Go!
>=20
> On 9/14/2012 2:58 AM, Eduard Baumann wrote:
> > [Attachment(s) <#TopText> from Eduard Baumann included below]
> >
> > Here is a fully scrambled log file containing my 3-cycle
> > hidden in the middle somewhere.
> > I have deleted the history and also deleted the macro which is=20
> > normally saved with log file.
> > Kind regards
> > Ed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Melinda Green
> > *To:* 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2012 12:47 AM
> > *Subject:* Re: [MC4D] MagicTile Solving: tiny size / big challenge
> >
> > Nice find, Eduard! I especially like that it is non-orientable in
> > addition to being small.
> >
> > How about you create a fully scrambled log file containing your
> > 3-cycle
> > hidden in the middle somewhere and then share it with the group?
> > We will
> > then see who can solve it. I just confirmed that you can erase the
> > scrambling history from the log file by deleting everything
> > between the
> > and tags. That will make it a fair contest. It
> > doesn't
> > seem to give the "ding" sound when you solve it that way but it
> > seems to
> > work fine otherwise.
> >
> > -Melinda
> >
> > On 9/13/2012 12:48 AM, Eduard wrote:
> > > I'm very surprised to encounter a tiny MagicTile puzzle
> > presenting a BIG challenge ! It's "MT eucl klein {3,6} 8 v 0:0:1".
> > It has only 12 two-color elements but the commutator moves 6
> > elements (double 3-cycle) and has only 6 fixed elements. To create
> > a single 3-cycle you have to find a setup which moves 5 moving
> > elements on the 6 fixed places. Possibly you can solve this puzzle
> > by chance when scrambled with few moves. But if I give you a
> > scrambling with my 28 move single 3-cycle you have to do the job.
> >
>





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