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Hello Andras, and congratulations! Hey, I just realized that we don't=20
have hall-of-fame categories for anything over four dimensions. Remi?=20
Roice? Hint, hint.
I love it when solution methods get pushed near their limits, even=20
though I've never mastered any of them. I also love your idea of=20
creating a Youtube video. My guess is that layer-by-layer solutions make=20
for more easily understood playbacks. 10 minutes sounds rather long=20
though. I would suggest turning the twist speed *way* up in order to=20
bring the time into the 3 minute range even if that means little or no=20
twist animation. Roice got Noel's 120 Cell solution video=20
showing one frame for every 10 twists, and it's still impressive to=20
watch. I encourage you to similarly have your puzzle slowly rotating as=20
it runs through the solution. Maybe for this 5D solution it could slowly=20
rotate involving more than pure 3D rotations? That seems like it would=20
be fitting.
I also love your idea of adding a suitable sound track. I have no idea=20
what music would be best to use but a good choice will certainly add a=20
lot to the effect. I'm very much looking forward to seeing your video!
Great to hear from you again, Andras, and with such good news!=20
Congratulations again,
-Melinda
On 2/5/2011 1:10 AM, Andras Ecseki wrote:
> [Attachment(s) <#TopText> from Andras Ecseki included below]
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> After I have read Melinda's enthusiasm about Matt's and Ethan's recent=20
> achievement, I felt myself pushed to give another shot to the MC5D=20
> with the experience I gained when I solved it first time. I've had=20
> some new ideas to reduce the number of the required twists both on=20
> 1-2. and last layer (I'm still using layer by layer method), but I've=20
> been using basically my old macros.
> Well, the result talks for itself:2262 twists (log file shows 2410,=20
> rotating moves and the 1st 100 twist subtracted).
> Although this is only my second solve, I think this is it, I couldn't=20
> do significantly better with this method, and with this program=20
> (plenty of twists could be spared, if the special twists would be=20
> allowed, I'm still hoping that Roice will implement them one day;-).
>
> One more thing: I have a request for the group!
> I'm considering to upload my solve on youtube, but I can't find the=20
> perfect music for it. I think the best would be some long song (like=20
> 10 min) without lyrics and a rythm similar to the speed of the twists=20
> running.
> I was thinking about stealing some soft piano music from Roice's old=20
> blog too, but I don't want a lawsuit for breaking copyrights:))
> I usually listen any kind of metal music, but I'm open minded for=20
> anything good.
>
> Thanks for reading me (and as always: sry for the bad english)
>
> Log file attached to this mail, if anyone wants to see it.
>
> Andr=C3=A1s
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Andrey
> *To:* 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Thu, September 2, 2010 3:48:14 PM
> *Subject:* [MC4D] Re: mc5d solved
>
> Andras, congratulations!
> I've accepted the challenge. And my result is 3581 twists. I solved=20
> cube in
> MC7D, but it has the same twist definition as MC5D, so results are=20
> comparable.
> Log file is here:
> http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/4D_Cubing/files/MC7D/andrey_3d5_3581.=
log
> I've used solving "from inside" (2C,3C,4C,5C). Last 50 twists were to=20
> resolve
> one 3-loop on 5C (probability of this situation is 2/3). I think that=20
> with luck
> I can do 3500 by my method, but not much better.
> Twists for stages of my solve:
> 2C - 125
> 3C - 706
> 4C - 1472
> 5C - 1278
>
> Good luck!
> Andrey
>
>
>
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Hello Andras, and congratulations! Hey, I just realized that we
don't have hall-of-fame categories for anything over four
dimensions. Remi? Roice? Hint, hint.
I love it when solution methods get pushed near their limits, even
though I've never mastered any of them. I also love your idea of
creating a Youtube video. My guess is that layer-by-layer solutions
make for more easily understood playbacks. 10 minutes sounds rather
long though. I would suggest turning the twist speed *way* up in
order to bring the time into the 3 minute range even if that means
little or no twist animation. Roice got Noel's
solution video down to 2 minutes by only showing one frame for
every 10 twists, and it's still impressive to watch. I encourage you
to similarly have your puzzle slowly rotating as it runs through the
solution. Maybe for this 5D solution it could slowly rotate
involving more than pure 3D rotations? That seems like it would be
fitting.
I also love your idea of adding a suitable sound track. I have no
idea what music would be best to use but a good choice will
certainly add a lot to the effect. I'm very much looking forward to
seeing your video!
Great to hear from you again, Andras, and with such good news!
Congratulations again,
-Melinda
On 2/5/2011 1:10 AM, Andras Ecseki wrote:
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After I have read Melinda's enthusiasm about Matt's and Ethan's
recent achievement, I felt myself pushed to give another shot to
the MC5D with the experience I gained when I solved it first
time. I've had some new ideas to reduce the number of the
required twists both on 1-2. and last layer (I'm still using
layer by layer method), but I've been using basically my old
macros.
Well, the result talks for itself: bold;">=C2=A02262 twist=
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(log file shows 2410, rotating moves and the 1st 100 twist
subtracted).
Although this is only my second solve, I think this is it, I
couldn't do significantly better with this method, and with this
program (plenty of twists could be spared, if the special twists
would be allowed, I'm still hoping that Roice will implement
them one day;-).
One more thing: I have a request for the group!
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the perfect music for it. I think the best would be some long
song (like 10 min) without lyrics and a rythm similar to the
speed of the twists running.
I was thinking about stealing some soft piano music from Roice's
old blog too, but I don't want a lawsuit for breaking
copyrights:))
minded for anything good.
Thanks for reading me (and as always: sry for the bad english)
Log file attached to this mail, if anyone wants to see it.
Andr=C3=A1s
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To:
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Sent: Thu,
September 2, 2010 3:48:14 PM
Subject:
[MC4D] Re: mc5d solved
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I've accepted the challenge. And my result is 3581
twists. I solved cube in
MC7D, but it has the same twist definition as MC5D, so
results are comparable.
Log file is here:
href=3D"http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/4D_Cubing/files/MC7D/andrey_3d5=
_3581.log">http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/4D_Cubing/files/MC7D/andrey_=
3d5_3581.log
I've used solving "from inside" (2C,3C,4C,5C). Last 50
twists were to resolve
one 3-loop on 5C (probability of this situation is 2/3).
I think that with luck
I can do 3500 by my method, but not much better.
Twists for stages of my solve:
2C - 125
3C - 706
4C - 1472
5C - 1278
Good luck!
Andrey
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