Thread: "MC7D solved! ;)"

From: "Andrey" <andreyastrelin@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:06:30 -0000
Subject: MC7D solved! ;)



Don't worry, it's not 3^7 and even not 3^6 - it's just small and simple 3^5=
:D It took about 3 days and less than 5000 twists (twist counter says 4955=
, but without start/stop macro markup it will be smaller number). I think t=
hat I have some ideas how to start 3^7 now :)

Good luck!
Andrey




From: "Andrey" <andreyastrelin@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:50:45 -0400
Subject: MC7D solved! ;)



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Surprised me for a second there! I didn't think 3^7 would be solved that
fast. Besides, I wanted to be the first and I'm still a long way off!

Good to know that the program works though. I'm liking it so far.
Especially the setup macros.

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Andrey wrote:

>
>
> Don't worry, it's not 3^7 and even not 3^6 - it's just small and simple 3=
^5
> :D It took about 3 days and less than 5000 twists (twist counter says 495=
5,
> but without start/stop macro markup it will be smaller number). I think t=
hat
> I have some ideas how to start 3^7 now :)
>
> Good luck!
> Andrey
>
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Surprised me for a second there!=A0 I didn't think 3^7 would be solved =
that fast.=A0 Besides, I wanted to be the first and I'm still a long wa=
y off!

Good to know that the program works though.=A0 I'm liking=
it so far.=A0 Especially the setup macros.


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Don't worry, it's not 3^7 and even not 3^6 - it's just=
small and simple 3^5 :D It took about 3 days and less than 5000 twists (tw=
ist counter says 4955, but without start/stop macro markup it will be small=
er number). I think that I have some ideas how to start 3^7 now :)




Good luck!

Andrey






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From: "deustfrr" <deustfrr@yahoo.ca>
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 12:49:55 -0000
Subject: Re: MC7D solved! ;)



about 3 days only?! that's awesome! I can't even do a 2X2X2X2!
And are you a teen? ;^)

--- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "Andrey" wrote:
>
> Don't worry, it's not 3^7 and even not 3^6 - it's just small and simple 3=
^5 :D It took about 3 days and less than 5000 twists (twist counter says 49=
55, but without start/stop macro markup it will be smaller number). I think=
that I have some ideas how to start 3^7 now :)
>=20
> Good luck!
> Andrey
>




From: "Andrey" <andreyastrelin@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 14:24:27 -0000
Subject: Re: MC7D solved! ;)



Actually it was about 1.5 days - between the moment when I found and fixed =
a bug in the program (and started 3^5 from the beginning) and complete solv=
ing (and recovering another bug - there was no congratulations window) ther=
e was about 33 hours. Maybe about 6-8 hours of "work".
No, I'm 41 years old. And may be I know a couple of things about the math=
ematics :)




--- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "deustfrr" wrote:
>
> about 3 days only?! that's awesome! I can't even do a 2X2X2X2!
> And are you a teen? ;^)
>=20
> --- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "Andrey" wrote:
> >
> > Don't worry, it's not 3^7 and even not 3^6 - it's just small and simple=
3^5 :D It took about 3 days and less than 5000 twists (twist counter says =
4955, but without start/stop macro markup it will be smaller number). I thi=
nk that I have some ideas how to start 3^7 now :)
> >=20
> > Good luck!
> > Andrey
> >
>




From: "deustfrr" <deustfrr@yahoo.ca>
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 01:04:07 -0000
Subject: Re: MC7D solved! ;)



Well, At least you solved it. And I'm a 12 year old looking up to you lolz!=
I know a bit about multidimensional geometry but I can't solve the 2^4 ! S=
o frustrating! Hope you solve MC7D ;^)!(I can't use the click function)=20

--- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "Andrey" wrote:
>
> Actually it was about 1.5 days - between the moment when I found and fixe=
d a bug in the program (and started 3^5 from the beginning) and complete so=
lving (and recovering another bug - there was no congratulations window) th=
ere was about 33 hours. Maybe about 6-8 hours of "work".
> No, I'm 41 years old. And may be I know a couple of things about the ma=
thematics :)
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "deustfrr" wrote:
> >
> > about 3 days only?! that's awesome! I can't even do a 2X2X2X2!
> > And are you a teen? ;^)
> >=20
> > --- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "Andrey" wrote:
> > >
> > > Don't worry, it's not 3^7 and even not 3^6 - it's just small and simp=
le 3^5 :D It took about 3 days and less than 5000 twists (twist counter say=
s 4955, but without start/stop macro markup it will be smaller number). I t=
hink that I have some ideas how to start 3^7 now :)
> > >=20
> > > Good luck!
> > > Andrey
> > >
> >
>




From: Melinda Green <melinda@superliminal.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 20:46:45 -0700
Subject: Re: [MC4D] Re: MC7D solved! ;)



12 years old?? Well I certainly encourage you to keep trying because
even if it takes you a year to learn to solve the 3^4, you'll almost
certainly be the world's youngest solver. Just study Roice's solution
and ask questions when you get stuck.

Good luck!
-Melinda

deustfrr wrote:
> Well, At least you solved it. And I'm a 12 year old looking up to you lolz! I know a bit about multidimensional geometry but I can't solve the 2^4 ! So frustrating! Hope you solve MC7D ;^)!(I can't use the click function)
>
> --- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "Andrey" wrote:
>
>> Actually it was about 1.5 days - between the moment when I found and fixed a bug in the program (and started 3^5 from the beginning) and complete solving (and recovering another bug - there was no congratulations window) there was about 33 hours. Maybe about 6-8 hours of "work".
>> No, I'm 41 years old. And may be I know a couple of things about the mathematics :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "deustfrr" wrote:
>>
>>> about 3 days only?! that's awesome! I can't even do a 2X2X2X2!
>>> And are you a teen? ;^)
>>>
>>> --- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "Andrey" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Don't worry, it's not 3^7 and even not 3^6 - it's just small and simple 3^5 :D It took about 3 days and less than 5000 twists (twist counter says 4955, but without start/stop macro markup it will be smaller number). I think that I have some ideas how to start 3^7 now :)
>>>>
>>>> Good luck!
>>>> Andrey
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>




From: "deustfrr" <deustfrr@yahoo.ca>
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:14:05 -0000
Subject: [MC4D] Re: MC7D solved! ;)



Awesome, but I'm not good at using the ultimate "commuters" solution.
I could try out the 3X3X3X3, but I'm having trouble with solving the last 3=
faces (parity?) Two of the faces are in a 2-cycle, while the rest are solv=
ed. Although I did luck out once: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEknI-K2y=
WFU lol
One question: why is there no 2^4 in the hall of fame?=20

--- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, Melinda Green wrote:
>
> 12 years old?? Well I certainly encourage you to keep trying because=20
> even if it takes you a year to learn to solve the 3^4, you'll almost=20
> certainly be the world's youngest solver. Just study Roice's solution=20
> and ask questions when you get stuck.
>=20
> Good luck!
> -Melinda
>=20
> deustfrr wrote:
> > Well, At least you solved it. And I'm a 12 year old looking up to you l=
olz! I know a bit about multidimensional geometry but I can't solve the 2^4=
! So frustrating! Hope you solve MC7D ;^)!(I can't use the click function)=
=20
> >
> > --- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "Andrey" wrote:
> >=20=20=20
> >> Actually it was about 1.5 days - between the moment when I found and f=
ixed a bug in the program (and started 3^5 from the beginning) and complete=
solving (and recovering another bug - there was no congratulations window)=
there was about 33 hours. Maybe about 6-8 hours of "work".
> >> No, I'm 41 years old. And may be I know a couple of things about the=
mathematics :)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "deustfrr" wrote:
> >>=20=20=20=20=20
> >>> about 3 days only?! that's awesome! I can't even do a 2X2X2X2!
> >>> And are you a teen? ;^)
> >>>
> >>> --- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "Andrey" wrote:
> >>>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
> >>>> Don't worry, it's not 3^7 and even not 3^6 - it's just small and sim=
ple 3^5 :D It took about 3 days and less than 5000 twists (twist counter sa=
ys 4955, but without start/stop macro markup it will be smaller number). I =
think that I have some ideas how to start 3^7 now :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Good luck!
> >>>> Andrey
> >>>>
> >>>>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>




From: Melinda Green <melinda@superliminal.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 11:16:51 -0700
Subject: Re: [MC4D] Re: MC7D solved! ;)



duestfrr,

There is no 2^4 record just because I didn't want to create the category
and keep it updated. I also don't like edge length 2 puzzles because
they are such oddballs and difficult to support in the code.

About color customization, that was one of the features recently added
to MC4D though it's probably not documented anywhere other than the list
archive. To use it, simply create a file named "facecolors.txt" in the
same directory as your jar file. Add one line of N colors to use for
each puzzle with N faces. Color format can be R,G,B with values from 0
to 255. You can also use the #RRGGBB hex web colors format and even mix
the two.

-Melinda

deustfrr wrote:
> --- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "deustfrr" wrote:
>
>> Awesome, but I'm not good at using the ultimate "commuters" solution.
>> I could try out the 3X3X3X3, but I'm having trouble with solving the last 3 faces (parity?) Two of the faces are in a 2-cycle, while the rest are solved. Although I did luck out once: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EknI-K2yWFU lol
>> One question: why is there no 2^4 in the hall of fame?
>> Another question: on MC5D you get to change the colour scheme, on MC4D...lol I like customization
>>
>> --- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, Melinda Green wrote:
>>
>>> 12 years old?? Well I certainly encourage you to keep trying because
>>> even if it takes you a year to learn to solve the 3^4, you'll almost
>>> certainly be the world's youngest solver. Just study Roice's solution
>>> and ask questions when you get stuck.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>> -Melinda
>>>
>>> deustfrr wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, At least you solved it. And I'm a 12 year old looking up to you lolz! I know a bit about multidimensional geometry but I can't solve the 2^4 ! So frustrating! Hope you solve MC7D ;^)!(I can't use the click function)
>>>>
>>>> --- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "Andrey" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Actually it was about 1.5 days - between the moment when I found and fixed a bug in the program (and started 3^5 from the beginning) and complete solving (and recovering another bug - there was no congratulations window) there was about 33 hours. Maybe about 6-8 hours of "work".
>>>>> No, I'm 41 years old. And may be I know a couple of things about the mathematics :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "deustfrr" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> about 3 days only?! that's awesome! I can't even do a 2X2X2X2!
>>>>>> And are you a teen? ;^)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "Andrey" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't worry, it's not 3^7 and even not 3^6 - it's just small and simple 3^5 :D It took about 3 days and less than 5000 twists (twist counter says 4955, but without start/stop macro markup it will be smaller number). I think that I have some ideas how to start 3^7 now :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>> Andrey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>




From: "deustfrr" <deustfrr@yahoo.ca>
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:23:01 -0000
Subject: [MC4D] Re: MC7D solved! ;)



2^4 is an oddball I guess, I'm not sure whether you can do edge turns or no=
t, corner turns are also odd, I see. And update: you wrote "12 years old?? =
Well I certainly encourage you to keep trying because=20
> >>> even if it takes you a year to learn to solve the 3^4, you'll almost=
=20
> >>> certainly be the world's youngest solver. Just study Roice's solution=
=20
> >>> and ask questions when you get stuck.
> >>>
> >>> Good luck!"
Thanks, I solved ALL the 2-coloured pieces and put 2 3-coloured pieces in t=
he right place! YAYYYYYYYYYY! I'm so happy I'll call in the news! (actually=
no)

--- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, Melinda Green wrote:
>
> duestfrr,
>=20
> There is no 2^4 record just because I didn't want to create the category=
=20
> and keep it updated. I also don't like edge length 2 puzzles because=20
> they are such oddballs and difficult to support in the code.
>=20
> About color customization, that was one of the features recently added=20
> to MC4D though it's probably not documented anywhere other than the list=
=20
> archive. To use it, simply create a file named "facecolors.txt" in the=20
> same directory as your jar file. Add one line of N colors to use for=20
> each puzzle with N faces. Color format can be R,G,B with values from 0=20
> to 255. You can also use the #RRGGBB hex web colors format and even mix=20
> the two.
>=20
> -Melinda
>=20
> deustfrr wrote:
> > --- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "deustfrr" wrote:
> >=20=20=20
> >> Awesome, but I'm not good at using the ultimate "commuters" solution.
> >> I could try out the 3X3X3X3, but I'm having trouble with solving the l=
ast 3 faces (parity?) Two of the faces are in a 2-cycle, while the rest are=
solved. Although I did luck out once: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEkn=
I-K2yWFU lol
> >> One question: why is there no 2^4 in the hall of fame?=20
> >> Another question: on MC5D you get to change the colour scheme, on MC4D=
...lol I like customization
> >>
> >> --- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, Melinda Green wrote:
> >>=20=20=20=20=20
> >>> 12 years old?? Well I certainly encourage you to keep trying because=
=20
> >>> even if it takes you a year to learn to solve the 3^4, you'll almost=
=20
> >>> certainly be the world's youngest solver. Just study Roice's solution=
=20
> >>> and ask questions when you get stuck.
> >>>
> >>> Good luck!
> >>> -Melinda
> >>>
> >>> deustfrr wrote:
> >>>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
> >>>> Well, At least you solved it. And I'm a 12 year old looking up to yo=
u lolz! I know a bit about multidimensional geometry but I can't solve the =
2^4 ! So frustrating! Hope you solve MC7D ;^)!(I can't use the click functi=
on)=20
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "Andrey" wrote:
> >>>>=20=20=20
> >>>>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
> >>>>> Actually it was about 1.5 days - between the moment when I found an=
d fixed a bug in the program (and started 3^5 from the beginning) and compl=
ete solving (and recovering another bug - there was no congratulations wind=
ow) there was about 33 hours. Maybe about 6-8 hours of "work".
> >>>>> No, I'm 41 years old. And may be I know a couple of things about =
the mathematics :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "deustfrr" wrote:
> >>>>>=20=20=20=20=20
> >>>>>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
> >>>>>> about 3 days only?! that's awesome! I can't even do a 2X2X2X2!
> >>>>>> And are you a teen? ;^)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --- In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "Andrey" wrote=
:
> >>>>>>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
> >>>>>>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
> >>>>>>> Don't worry, it's not 3^7 and even not 3^6 - it's just small and =
simple 3^5 :D It took about 3 days and less than 5000 twists (twist counter=
says 4955, but without start/stop macro markup it will be smaller number).=
I think that I have some ideas how to start 3^7 now :)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Good luck!
> >>>>>>> Andrey
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
> >>>>>>>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>





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